How to increase viscosity and thickness of alpha-olefin sulfonate( AOS 38%)

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Can any share there experience on How to increase viscosity and thickness of alpha-olefin sulfonate Liquid(AOS 38%).
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  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    Add CAPB and NACL
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn't get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    drjayseesunish said:
    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn't get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.
    *Precisely before or after step
  • ketchitoketchito Member
    @drjayseesunish I wouldn't use essential oils in a liquid dishwash, it's expensive, hard to solubilize and can impact viscosity. I'd rather use a common fragrance, which will usually come with a solubilizing system according to your product. That one can be added directly, or pre-solubilized with part of your surfactants.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    drjayseesunish said:
    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn't get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.
    What is your formula and procedure?
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    ketchito said:
    @drjayseesunish I wouldn't use essential oils in a liquid dishwash, it's expensive, hard to solubilize and can impact viscosity. I'd rather use a common fragrance, which will usually come with a solubilizing system according to your product. That one can be added directly, or pre-solubilized with part of your surfactants.
    @ketchito thanks a lot ketchito. You don't know how much eagerness I was waiting your reply 😃.
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    Abdullah said:
    drjayseesunish said:
    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn't get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.
    What is your formula and procedure?
    @Abdullah
    1. water labsa NaOH adjust ph 7. Add Sles.
    2 capb. fragrance oil mix together. Cdea.
     3.mix 2 in 1 liquid.
     4.add colour 
    5 NaCl 
    Again see ph and find better action below ph7.
  • AbdullahAbdullah Member
    drjayseesunish said:
    Abdullah said:
    drjayseesunish said:
    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn't get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.
    What is your formula and procedure?
    @Abdullah
    1. water labsa NaOH adjust ph 7. Add Sles.
    2 capb. fragrance oil mix together. Cdea.
     3.mix 2 in 1 liquid.
     4.add colour 
    5 NaCl 
    Again see ph and find better action below ph7.
    What is the percentage?

    Does it loss viscosity when you add fragrance?

    "if not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity." In what sequence it does not lose viscosity? 
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    Abdullah said:
    drjayseesunish said:
    Abdullah said:
    drjayseesunish said:
    @Abdullah @ketchito I  am making dishwash liquid and I  have seen mixing the fragrance and food colour,if  not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity. Previously you told fragrance oil should be mixed in CAPB and I did so but didn't get purpose. So please while making these liquid when we should add this fragrance and colour, previously before r after particular step. One more thing what we should use fragrance oil or fragrance liquid extract. I am using essential oil.
    What is your formula and procedure?
    @Abdullah
    1. water labsa NaOH adjust ph 7. Add Sles.
    2 capb. fragrance oil mix together. Cdea.
     3.mix 2 in 1 liquid.
     4.add colour 
    5 NaCl 
    Again see ph and find better action below ph7.
    What is the percentage?

    Does it loss viscosity when you add fragrance?

    "if not in particular sequence, the liquid lost its viscosity." In what sequence it does not lose viscosity? 
    @Abdullah yes when mix fragrance then lose its viscosity. 
    Once I made it with same fragrance, not lost viscosity. I forgot to write down as I didn't think it will be much important . I didn't remember that particular sequence that's why I am asking Is there any particular step to add it.
  • ketchitoketchito Member
    @drjayseesunish Try premixing your fragramce with CDEA, and see how it goes.
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    ketchito said:
    @drjayseesunish Try premixing your fragramce with CDEA, and see how it goes.
    @ketchito I am mixing CAPB with cdea then add it to liquid. Now should I mix it cdea first then it add to CAPB ? I will try it. Thanks a lot ketchito. 
  • ketchitoketchito Member
    @drjayseesunish I'd add first the CAPB alone to the main batch, almost at the end, and then, I'd premix fragrance with CDEA and add it to the main batch. See how it works.
  • drjayseesunishdrjayseesunish Member
    ketchito said:
    @drjayseesunish I'd add first the CAPB alone to the main batch, almost at the end, and then, I'd premix fragrance with CDEA and add it to the main batch. See how it works.
    @ketchito ok thanks a lot😊
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