Anydrous body wash? Is it possible?

Hi everyone, a client has requested an anhydrous body wash that lathers up similar to a regular water-based body wash. I'm trying to figure out if I can come up with an anhydrous base first using esters + diols but I'm really stuck. What could we possible replace the water with? I could try to do an oil-based cleanser, but that wouldn't later as well and would probably just be a "milk" consistency. I believe they want to be water-free for environmental purposes. Any help would be appreciated. 

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  • MicroformulationMicroformulation Member, Professional Chemist
    Shampoo bar or other such solid form.
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  • Hi @Microformulation - the client wants it in liquid form. I thought of a simple soap bar too. But that won't work out. 
  • It's possible, L'Occitane and The Body Shop both have an oil based body wash that lathers.

    Lush uses glycerin instead of water for much of their shower gels.


  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    @Sincityfire which products are you referring to? You have a link?
  • Perry said:
    @Sincityfire which products are you referring to? You have a link?
    Sure, here are the products and their ingredient lists:

    • L'Occitane Almond Shower Oil: Vitis Vinifera (grape) Seed Oil, Tipa-laureth Sulfate, Laureth-3, Caprylic/capric Triglyceride, Parfum/fragrance, Cocamide Mea, Propylene Glycol, Sorbitan Oleate, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (sweet Almond) Oil, Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (bergamot) Fruit Oil, Helianthus Annuus (sunflower) Seed Oil, Rosmarinus Officinalis (rosemary) Leaf Extract, Tocopherol, Aqua/water, Limonene, Coumarin, Linalool
    • The Body Shop Hemp Hydrating & Protecting Shower Oil: Glycine Soja Oil/Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Laureth-3, MIPA-Laureth Sulfate, Cannabis Sativa Seed Oil, Laureth-7 Citrate, Ricinus Communis Seed Oil/Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Parfum/Fragrance, Polyglyceryl-2 Caprate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Tocopherol, Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides Citrate, Citric Acid

    • Lush - not completely anhydrous but they often use glycerin instead of water as the main diluent, for example: Honey I Washed the Kids Shower Gel: Honey, Glycerine, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate, Rosehip; Lotus Flowers And Tiger Lily Infusion, Perfume, Brazilian Orange Oil, Bergamot Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Amyl Cinnamal, *Citronellol, *Geraniol, *Limonene, *Linalool
  • Perry said:
    @Sincityfire which products are you referring to? You have a link?
    Sure, here are the products and their ingredient lists:

    • L'Occitane Almond Shower Oil: Vitis Vinifera (grape) Seed Oil, Tipa-laureth Sulfate, Laureth-3, Caprylic/capric Triglyceride, Parfum/fragrance, Cocamide Mea, Propylene Glycol, Sorbitan Oleate, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (sweet Almond) Oil, Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (bergamot) Fruit Oil, Helianthus Annuus (sunflower) Seed Oil, Rosmarinus Officinalis (rosemary) Leaf Extract, Tocopherol, Aqua/water, Limonene, Coumarin, Linalool
    • The Body Shop Hemp Hydrating & Protecting Shower Oil: Glycine Soja Oil/Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Laureth-3, MIPA-Laureth Sulfate, Cannabis Sativa Seed Oil, Laureth-7 Citrate, Ricinus Communis Seed Oil/Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Parfum/Fragrance, Polyglyceryl-2 Caprate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Tocopherol, Hydrogenated Palm Glycerides Citrate, Citric Acid

    • Lush - not completely anhydrous but they often use glycerin instead of water as the main diluent, for example: Honey I Washed the Kids Shower Gel: Honey, Glycerine, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate, Rosehip; Lotus Flowers And Tiger Lily Infusion, Perfume, Brazilian Orange Oil, Bergamot Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Amyl Cinnamal, *Citronellol, *Geraniol, *Limonene, *Linalool
    So since the Lush product is anhydrous, does this negate the preservation issues typically associated with formulating with honey? Especially since it is listed as the first ingredient??

    @Perry @PhilGeis @Pharma ;
  • PhilGeisPhilGeis Member, Professional formulator
    Apparently Lush thinks it does.
  • PharmaPharma Member, Pharmacist
    If I'm not mistaken, Lush products have very short shelf lives (and I have the impression that they don't properly test them).
  • Does the INCI on the product above even follow FDA labeling laws...? "...lotus flower and tiger Lily infusion.." ?
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