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  • solubiliser and emulsifier

    Posted by smok on March 6, 2019 at 10:57 am
    what’s the difference between

     solubiliser and emulsifier

    smok replied 5 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    I don’t want to discourage people from
    asking questions, and I am always ready to respond, however this is exactly a
    type of question that makes professional chemists of this forum complain that
    it used to be a “safe space” for professionals that is now flooded by dilatants
    and home “crappers” (instead of home crafters) as one of the members
    phrased it in one of the recent discussions.

    You can literally put this question in google and get
    the answer. Please make sure you only ask something that Google doesn’t know. Or ask a friendly member in a pm.

    Now the answer:
    both are surfactants; both are used in
    order to make oil and water mix together. The difference is that solubilisers
    are used when you need to incorporate a tiny amount of oil into a large amount of water and achieve a clear solution. Example: you need a solubiliser to incorporate 0.5% of fragrance oil into
    clear micellar water or a cleanser. You need an emulsifier to make a lotion or
    a cream. It will not be clear. Anticipating the next question: the best
    solubiliser is PEG-40 HCO. 

  • smok

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    I don’t want to discourage people from
    asking questions, and I am always ready to respond, however this is exactly a
    type of question that makes professional chemists of this forum complain that
    it used to be a “safe space” for professionals that is now flooded by dilatants
    and home “crappers” (instead of home crafters) as one of the members
    phrased it in one of the recent discussions.

    You can literally put this question in google and get
    the answer. Please make sure you only ask something that Google doesn’t know. Or ask a friendly member in a pm.

    Now the answer:
    both are surfactants; both are used in
    order to make oil and water mix together. The difference is that solubilisers
    are used when you need to incorporate a tiny amount of oil into a large amount of water and achieve a clear solution. Example: you need a solubiliser to incorporate 0.5% of fragrance oil into
    clear micellar water or a cleanser. You need an emulsifier to make a lotion or
    a cream. It will not be clear. Anticipating the next question: the best
    solubiliser is PEG-40 HCO. 

    unfortunately this answer is not on google
     think the best one is peg-40 not peg-40 hco the last one is emolient
  • smok

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    Can i use peg 40 as solubiliser for tocopherol

  • NeilL

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    First search result on google..

  • Fekher

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    @smok i think as members said it is easy to find such information in google so i have same thinking with @ngarayeva001 it is better for you to make researchements and efforts before ask for help. 

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 2:09 pm

    Yes, exactly formula botanica link is what you find when you type it in google.

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 2:13 pm
  • smok

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    I saw somewhere in this forum peg-40 hco and peg-40 there are difference

  • ngarayeva001

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    Again I
    appreciate the fact that cosmetic formulation is a very niche industry. It is
    really hard to find information online, but you can if you are resourceful enough.

    One of the easiest
    options is to use suppliers websites. They
    want to sell their products and provide a lot of helpful information. You can learn
    a lot by just using makingcosmetics.
    Analysing existing products in the market also helps a lot.

    Another great
    way to learn is to use INCIdecoder website. Type the inci and see in which products it is
    used. You can learn so much by analysing brand products!

    I am not
    discouraging anyone from asking questions, but I am really tired of reading diminishing comments about homecrafters who want “free formulas”, “free
    answers” and don’t do the homework.

    And feel free
    to pm me, I will respond when I have time (if I didn’t answer a personal
    question, doesn’t mean I won’t answer a question on formulation). 

  • smok

    Member
    March 6, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    thank you you always you have very good advices

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