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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://chemistscorner.com/how-to-prevent-contamination-in-cosmetic-products/comment-page-1/#comment-1387</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 10:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We test with 2000ppm MI in aqua. I do not know what the pH is, and the number of positives is a part of the manuscript and therefore confidential at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We test with 2000ppm MI in aqua. I do not know what the pH is, and the number of positives is a part of the manuscript and therefore confidential at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: David Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What level of MI is in your test? What vehicle? What pH?
What number of positives compared to other allergens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What level of MI is in your test? What vehicle? What pH?<br />
What number of positives compared to other allergens?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is correct when David Steinberg states that the test kit use the mixture with the chloro and non-chloro. However, in the last years methylisothiazolinone alone has also been part of the contact allergy test at the Hospital where I work, and upcoming scientific articles will reveal that methy-isothiazolinone contact allergy is relatively frequent. 

This is not a recommendation to discard isothiazolinones or other allergenic preservatives; they are a necessity but should be used with caution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is correct when David Steinberg states that the test kit use the mixture with the chloro and non-chloro. However, in the last years methylisothiazolinone alone has also been part of the contact allergy test at the Hospital where I work, and upcoming scientific articles will reveal that methy-isothiazolinone contact allergy is relatively frequent. </p>
<p>This is not a recommendation to discard isothiazolinones or other allergenic preservatives; they are a necessity but should be used with caution.</p>
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		<title>By: David Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isothiazolinone is not a major sensitizer. The chloro derivitive is when left on the skin and used at levels higher than about 15 ppm.

Michael just lumps everything together is  incorrect. Because the chloro is sold with the non-chloro versionat a 3 to 1 ratio, he assumes boith are the cause. As the pure chloro is not a commercial product, the test kist use the mixture. The pure methylisothiazolinone is a commercial product and is recommended for leave on applications. It needs a anti-fungal agent with it to give complete protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isothiazolinone is not a major sensitizer. The chloro derivitive is when left on the skin and used at levels higher than about 15 ppm.</p>
<p>Michael just lumps everything together is  incorrect. Because the chloro is sold with the non-chloro versionat a 3 to 1 ratio, he assumes boith are the cause. As the pure chloro is not a commercial product, the test kist use the mixture. The pure methylisothiazolinone is a commercial product and is recommended for leave on applications. It needs a anti-fungal agent with it to give complete protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning isothiazolinones; it is a wellknown fact that isothiazolinone can cause sensitization. methylchloroisthiazolinone/methylisothiazolinone (in a 3:1 combination) has been part of a standard series which tests for contact allergy in more than 20 years, it is one the most frequent sensitizing preservatives. If you search scientific databases you will find numerous studies that describes sensitization and contact allergy to isothiazolinone.

PS. Drowning is not caused by high level of exposure to water. Drowning is caused by increased CO2 levels in the blood that forces one to inhale water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning isothiazolinones; it is a wellknown fact that isothiazolinone can cause sensitization. methylchloroisthiazolinone/methylisothiazolinone (in a 3:1 combination) has been part of a standard series which tests for contact allergy in more than 20 years, it is one the most frequent sensitizing preservatives. If you search scientific databases you will find numerous studies that describes sensitization and contact allergy to isothiazolinone.</p>
<p>PS. Drowning is not caused by high level of exposure to water. Drowning is caused by increased CO2 levels in the blood that forces one to inhale water.</p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarifications David.

Here&#039;s another link to the work related to the bacteria found growing in hairspray.  It is not on the hair but in the concentrate.  I have no idea how it survived the alcohol exposure.  http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/18319473/Microbacterium_hatanonis_sp_nov__isolated_as_a_contaminant_of_hairspray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarifications David.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another link to the work related to the bacteria found growing in hairspray.  It is not on the hair but in the concentrate.  I have no idea how it survived the alcohol exposure.  <a href="http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/18319473/Microbacterium_hatanonis_sp_nov__isolated_as_a_contaminant_of_hairspray" rel="nofollow">http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/18319473/Microbacterium_hatanonis_sp_nov__isolated_as_a_contaminant_of_hairspray</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also i&#039;ve been reading about Hyaluronic Acid, dr Loren Pickart wrote something about it ,stating that it isn&#039;t good as an ingredient ?

1. HA sucks water out of the air and becomes wet. If you put dry HA on a dish, in about 30 minutes you would have a puddle of water. It is a very hygroscopic material, one which attracts moisture from the atmosphere. If not protected from contact with the atmosphere (by being stored under vacuum or under a dry gas) some hygroscopic materials will eventually attract so much water that they will form solutions.

2. Then this water wets or hydrates the outer skin proteins. This weakens the proteins and loosens the protective skin barrier.

The weak skin barrier allows bacteria, viruses, and allergens to pass through the skin. Often famous young actors in their late 20s have a very spotted skin (you often see this on a large screen) from skin barrier damage from heavy use of make up and make up removers.

3. The wet proteins slow keratin production. The signal for the skin to send up new keratinocytes to the surface is a dryness in the proteins in the top of the skin. So skin is replaced slower and damage accumulates.

4. Many years ago, women used Cold Creams to keep their faces moist when they went to bed. If you have seen &quot;I Love Lucy&quot; or old movies, you have seem women with these white creams all over their face. But they ended up with horrible wrinkles as time went by because their skin had been keep too wet.

5. There is the idea of a limited cell life but many cell biologists doubt if this is correct. Many cells line that die in about 40 generations will live very long - such a 200 generations - as normal diploid, cancer-free cells if they are given supplemental growth factors such a fibroblast growth factor, GHK, and other hormones. No one knows how long cells can live because very long cell culture experiments are very expensive.

The body also makes stem cells - even in adults - that can keep setting up new cell lines.&quot;


So is HA good or not for the skin? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also i&#8217;ve been reading about Hyaluronic Acid, dr Loren Pickart wrote something about it ,stating that it isn&#8217;t good as an ingredient ?</p>
<p>1. HA sucks water out of the air and becomes wet. If you put dry HA on a dish, in about 30 minutes you would have a puddle of water. It is a very hygroscopic material, one which attracts moisture from the atmosphere. If not protected from contact with the atmosphere (by being stored under vacuum or under a dry gas) some hygroscopic materials will eventually attract so much water that they will form solutions.</p>
<p>2. Then this water wets or hydrates the outer skin proteins. This weakens the proteins and loosens the protective skin barrier.</p>
<p>The weak skin barrier allows bacteria, viruses, and allergens to pass through the skin. Often famous young actors in their late 20s have a very spotted skin (you often see this on a large screen) from skin barrier damage from heavy use of make up and make up removers.</p>
<p>3. The wet proteins slow keratin production. The signal for the skin to send up new keratinocytes to the surface is a dryness in the proteins in the top of the skin. So skin is replaced slower and damage accumulates.</p>
<p>4. Many years ago, women used Cold Creams to keep their faces moist when they went to bed. If you have seen &#8220;I Love Lucy&#8221; or old movies, you have seem women with these white creams all over their face. But they ended up with horrible wrinkles as time went by because their skin had been keep too wet.</p>
<p>5. There is the idea of a limited cell life but many cell biologists doubt if this is correct. Many cells line that die in about 40 generations will live very long &#8211; such a 200 generations &#8211; as normal diploid, cancer-free cells if they are given supplemental growth factors such a fibroblast growth factor, GHK, and other hormones. No one knows how long cells can live because very long cell culture experiments are very expensive.</p>
<p>The body also makes stem cells &#8211; even in adults &#8211; that can keep setting up new cell lines.&#8221;</p>
<p>So is HA good or not for the skin? <img src='http://chemistscorner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, airless can inhibit microbial growth.  But that would require near sterile manufacturing conditions and the consumer can&#039;t touch the product in the package.  Even in an airless system it would be better to have some type of preservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, airless can inhibit microbial growth.  But that would require near sterile manufacturing conditions and the consumer can&#8217;t touch the product in the package.  Even in an airless system it would be better to have some type of preservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about airless packaging? will it be better in preserving a product?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about airless packaging? will it be better in preserving a product?</p>
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		<title>By: David Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeast almost never grow in cosmetics as the water activity for yeast is very narrow and is rarely obtained in any cosmetic formulation.

Parabens also show weak activity against some Gram negative bacteria. They only function when dissolved in water. Exceeding the water solubility is a waste of money.

Formaldehyde donors rarely dissociate in water. What causes the release is the breaking of the Nitrogen to Carbon bond:  -N-CH2-OH.They are weakest aginst molds. Gulteraldehyde does not breakdown to formaldehyde. It is a very strong skin senistizer and is almost never used in cosmetics due to this and is bad odor.

Quats function best above a pH of 7. Most are very more at any pH against pseudomonas.

Ther is a debate if propylene glycol is really anti-microbial or is it due to its lowering of water activity. Either way the levels that show inhibition are much higher than those used in cosmetics as above 10% it causes a &quot;burning&quot; feeling to skin.

Methyliosthaizoline is very weak against mold, the chloro is strongly anti-fungal. The mixture is not recommednded for leave on products.

Chloroacetamide has been found to be unsafe by the CIR. It causes chloroacne.
Zinc prithione do not kill bacteria they are strongly anti-fungal and yeast. The gunig cause dandruff- not bacteria.

As to the hairspray,  I have these questions-did the bateria grow in the hair or in the actual spray? How much alcohol was in the hairspray?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeast almost never grow in cosmetics as the water activity for yeast is very narrow and is rarely obtained in any cosmetic formulation.</p>
<p>Parabens also show weak activity against some Gram negative bacteria. They only function when dissolved in water. Exceeding the water solubility is a waste of money.</p>
<p>Formaldehyde donors rarely dissociate in water. What causes the release is the breaking of the Nitrogen to Carbon bond:  -N-CH2-OH.They are weakest aginst molds. Gulteraldehyde does not breakdown to formaldehyde. It is a very strong skin senistizer and is almost never used in cosmetics due to this and is bad odor.</p>
<p>Quats function best above a pH of 7. Most are very more at any pH against pseudomonas.</p>
<p>Ther is a debate if propylene glycol is really anti-microbial or is it due to its lowering of water activity. Either way the levels that show inhibition are much higher than those used in cosmetics as above 10% it causes a &#8220;burning&#8221; feeling to skin.</p>
<p>Methyliosthaizoline is very weak against mold, the chloro is strongly anti-fungal. The mixture is not recommednded for leave on products.</p>
<p>Chloroacetamide has been found to be unsafe by the CIR. It causes chloroacne.<br />
Zinc prithione do not kill bacteria they are strongly anti-fungal and yeast. The gunig cause dandruff- not bacteria.</p>
<p>As to the hairspray,  I have these questions-did the bateria grow in the hair or in the actual spray? How much alcohol was in the hairspray?</p>
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