"Dermatologically Tested"

braveheartbraveheart Member
edited January 2015 in Cosmetic Industry
"Dermatologically Tested" or "Clinically Tested"

Does either this really mean anything but marketing theme? Are products not dermatologically tested when people test them and they report back that it worked or didn't work for them? Are products not clinically tested when they go through challenge or microbiological testing?

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  • pmapma Member
    I don't know about US, but in my country to claim "dermatologically tested" you need to do RIPT (Repeat Insult Patch Test) or another test that I don't remember its name.
  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    edited January 2015
    It's mostly marketing.  I mean you can't say dermatologically tested if there wasn't a dermatologist involved in the testing, but the specific test doesn't really matter since you're just claiming it was dermatologically tested.  

    Usually when something is tested by dermatologist you hire a company to run a moisturization test and a dermatologist either scores the legs or reviews the report and signs it.

    But just having someone test a product and report back to you wouldn't be dermatologically tested.  Micro challenge testing might qualify as clinically tested if some clinical lab did the testing.

    ***These are the rules in the US.  Other places around the world may be different.
  • heraklitheraklit Member, PCF student
    In Europe derm. tested is a claim that you must prove it doing patch test in an accredited lab under the control of a dermatologist (simple patch test - 10-20 volunterrs for 48h or HRIPT - 50 volunteers for 3 weeks).
  • BobzchemistBobzchemist Member, PCF student
    I always thought that was a very amusing way of making a claim. "Clinically tested" - note that there is no information as to whether or not the product actually PASSED the test...
    Robert Zonis, Sr. Formulation Chemist, Beaumont Products "All opinions and comments expressed are my own, have no relation to Beaumont Products, are fully copyrighted, and may not be used without written permission."
  • Have had many products dermatologically tested and have never had one fail, even ''harsh'' products.
    Involves RIPT testing usually on 50 subjects and a extra charge for a dermatologist to sign off on the results.
    agree with you bobzchemist
  •  heraklit , do you have any reference on where it is stated in the EU regulation ? Only thing i can find is this "The claim "dermatologically tested" implies that the product was tested on humans under the
    supervision of a dermatologist. Depending on the presentation of the claim, it may, refer to a
    specific efficacy or tolerance of the product." 
    Nothing on how it should be done or not even if it has to pass the test like Bobzchemist noted.
    http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/sectors/cosmetics/files/pdf/guide_reg_claims_en.pdf

  • PerryPerry Administrator, Professional Chemist
    This question prompted me to write a blog post about cosmetic claims.  Let me know what you think.

  • heraklitheraklit Member, PCF student
    In the mandatory PIF (product info file) you must include test reports about the safety of the product. See at page 22 Annex 1 partA-10:
    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:342:0059:0209:en:PDF
    Also some guidance - "When, after an in-depth evaluation of the safety of the final product, the safety
    assessor does not expect it to cause any adverse effect under foreseeable conditions of
    use, it is recommended to undertake compatibility testing on a number of human
    volunteers before the product is finally marketed":
    http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/consumer_safety/docs/sccs_s_006.pdf
    About test protocols here:
    http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/docs/service_contract_20096104_en.pdf


  • That was a really good piece of marketing expose, Perry. I particularly liked the reference - Guiding Principles on Responsible Advertising and Marketing Communication

    But when marketers use these terms, is it wrong or misleading? I am asking/saying that because I am a marketer. As a marketer, you want your product to stand out from the competitive crowd, you put a red dress on your product to make it look different from all the other grays in the field. That gets the customer's attention - "hypoallergenic", what if that is the intention of the maker/marketer? Is this wrong? If he doesn't highlight this "benefit" for the customer to see, how would the customer know?

    If this is wrong, how should the marketer present his product to the public or potential customer? This is not an indictment on the article, I just am curious to know.
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