bgeorge
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Hi guys!

I am am currently working on my formulation for a unorthodox waterbased pomade. I can’t seem to get the formula right! I would love some suggestions!

I did get a consistancy I was I was pretty happy with and it tested really well. I did get some feedback asking me to try and make the product thicker and swap out a nut oil to cater for those with severe nut allergies (I know that topical nut oils won’t necessarily interfere with these, I don’t want to take the risk).

so I made some fairly subtle changes to the formulation and now the product has gone runny! Which I find strange, given that I have added slightly more wax.

does anyone on here have any suggestions?

Original formula that worked:

New formula that has gone runny:

Thank you in advance for your suggestions, I hope that you can help.

I am am currently working on my formulation for a unorthodox waterbased pomade. I can’t seem to get the formula right! I would love some suggestions!

I did get a consistancy I was I was pretty happy with and it tested really well. I did get some feedback asking me to try and make the product thicker and swap out a nut oil to cater for those with severe nut allergies (I know that topical nut oils won’t necessarily interfere with these, I don’t want to take the risk).

so I made some fairly subtle changes to the formulation and now the product has gone runny! Which I find strange, given that I have added slightly more wax.

does anyone on here have any suggestions?

Original formula that worked:

New formula that has gone runny:

Thank you in advance for your suggestions, I hope that you can help.

## Comments

When i bottled the original formula, the product was harder cream consistency and the second formula formed a thick skin and when you went to scoop it was like a custard!

Thank you for your input!

Thank you all for your input, I have removed the borax from my formula and I have done another test batch of pomade tonight, I will keep you posted on the results.

What are your thoughts on Naticide as a preservative?

PS. I am also working on a Matte Clay based on my pomade formula. I’m having a real issue with the consistency of this as well. I’m finding that it is really dry and flaky. Not like a cream which is what I am aiming for. It also separates when you are rubbing between your fingers. Any feedback for me?

im using PEG40 Hydrogenised Castor Oil. If this helps

bring water phase to the same temperature.

pour water phase into the oil phase whilst combining with a milk frother. Hold temperature for 5 minutes. Take off the heat and bring down to 50 degrees Celsius.

then I add the clays, fragrance and preservative and combine that with the frother.

then pour into the jar while still hot.

To help with my dried out product, would you recommend that I drop some of the waxes and lift the amount of PEG40 hydrogenised castor oil? Will this fix my consistency issue?

I have seen other products currently on the market with very similar ingredients, and they have been able to preserve their product to go to market. Will optiphen plus preserve this formula do you feel?

Slight adjustment to the formula, lifting the PEG40 HCO and dropping some waxes. Hopefully this will make a difference to the consistency. What are your thoughts on this adjustment?

AN : hlb = (15×5+ 3×7)/ 8 = 12.

About level use of emulsifers may 1/3 (oils phase without clay) will be good.

@Fekher is a HLB of 12 good?