Glass cleaner

Dear Friends I have been experimenting on glass cleaner, I tried hydrogen peroxide at different quantities but its evaporating capacity is not that high at room temperature and at room light, before that I tried to made it with acetic acid, the issue is that the acetic acid gives a vinegar smell which is disturbing and I read many thing on internet for removing the smell of it which comprises, 
uses of citrus fruits peels for days in the container
uses of lemon and herbs to disguise the smell 

But I was wondering this is not practical at the industry level  

If any body has any experience dealing with the smell of vinegar please share 

Thank you 

Comments

  • I don't think vinegar works fine to clean glass 
    Glass cleaners often need a volatile solvent so it evaporates quickly
    either:

    1 ethyl alcohol. It's percentage depends on your country VOC regulations, and on how quick do you want it to dry.
    2 isopropyl alcohol (often smells worse than ethyl alcohol)
    3 butylcellosolve

    1-3 are solvents and help dissolving grease smears.
    you can also add

    4 a surfactant in tiny amounts, preferably a nonionic one like glucosides so it doesn't cling to glass.
    5 EDTA
    6 a water soluble silicone to prevent fogginh and streaks.
  • Ethyl alcohol, ammonia, amines. Those are the old tried and tested ways.
    Or you could go high-tech.
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  • thank you @Gunther yes isopropyl and ethyl alcohol are use with the vinegar and water to do the work but both smell bad... and I want to know how these glass cleaning companies defuses the smell of it. 

    Thank you @Belassi and what comes in high tech 
  • @shaujaat you don't need to make vinegar to make glass cleaner you can just use water, isopropanol , preservative , perfume and colorant if you want.
  • @Fekher yes but Isopropyl alcohol is expensive and vinegar has better cleaning abilities, so I think a mixture of both can do the work with economy. 
  • Dowanols as someone mentioned in the thread above and a nonionic surfactant. Everything that Gunther mentioned, vinegar is for DIY stuff. Leave it out, IPA is used to defoam as well here. Use very low quantity of anti-foam if you think IPA is expensive. 
  • edited November 7
    @shaujaat for cost you can decrease the level of IPA or even to replace it with ethanol and about effecacity i already made glass cleaner without vinegar and it works good so you just need to find the adequat levels of each ingredients.
  • @Chemist77 right 

    @Fekher all right and a little fragrance can infuse the smell of IPA unlike in vinegar ?
  • edited November 7
    Thank you @Belassi and what comes in high tech 
    Oh all right ... mutter, grumble, goes to find tech docs... you will note that these products are mainly water.  I've tried these and they work super well. No, PLEASE don't message me asking if this can be replaced by that. It is what it is.

    1. pH = 10. Transparent liquid. Biodegradable, streak-free cleaner suitable for car paint and glass.
    Water ....  93.76%
    Tomadol 902 .... 3% (Air Products / Univar)
    Caprylyl glucoside .... 0.5%
    Tomamine Amphoteric 400 .... 0.24% (Air Products / Univar)
    Polyquaternium-95 .... 2%
    Biosure GE1 (preservative) .... 0.5%

    2. pH = 10. Transparent liquid. Dries without leaving stains.
    Water .... 97.3%
    Dehypound Advanced .... 1.6% (BASF)
    Polyquart Pro A .... 0.23% (BASF)
    Trilon M liquid .... 0.23% (BASF)
    Tomamine Amphoteric 400 .... 0.24% (Air Products / Univar)
    Suggested fragrance: RM116147 Mr. Clean Liquid Muscle .... 0.4% Ungerer / Univar)

    So, in other words, you can faff about using high % of ammonia, ethyl alcohol or whatever .. or you could go high tech and create a product that works great and is 97% water. Your choice.


    Design of anti-aging creams, gels, and serums; shampoos; and therapeutic cosmetics. In-house label and box design capability.
  • @shaujaat for sure you just need low level of perfume to have acceptable odor using ethanol or IPA.
  • "One percent active Dehypound® Advanced performs better than fully formulated commercial HSCs currently sold in the US I&I and household markets. In addition the product has low controlled foam. Dehypound® Advanced can be used to make glass, bathroom, floor, metal and all purpose cleaners, as well as aqueous degreasers." - ULP.
    Design of anti-aging creams, gels, and serums; shampoos; and therapeutic cosmetics. In-house label and box design capability.
  • @Belassi ohh God this is really high tech :smile: I think these ingredients might not be available in our country. but worth trying , many thanks ! 
  • you are welcome @shaujaat
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