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  • Do You Use Your Own Products?

    Posted by CosChemFan on April 13, 2015 at 1:31 am

    This is a silly question that came to my mind the other day.

    How many of you chemist actually use products that you formulate? 
    Do you make items specific to you/your family or do you purchase things from the store? 
    Do you use products from colleagues?
    Is your home filled with products or do you keep what you like/need and discard the rest?

    ;)) Just something I’ve wondered for a while now.

    Regards,
    Ayden
    RobertG replied 8 years, 3 months ago 13 Members · 18 Replies
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  • billichemist

    Member
    April 13, 2015 at 5:08 am

    I do! i only use the ones that have been leftover from formulation trials but too good throw out!

  • MichelleReece

    Member
    April 13, 2015 at 5:20 am

    Yes, I do, though I mostly make them for my family who suffers from severely dry skin because of frequent hand-washing or diabetes. My major skin problem is acne, but I can’t get as fancy and nice with my at-home formulations as I want them.

  • MakingSkincare

    Member
    April 13, 2015 at 9:46 am
    I formulate so many different products for my clients that I couldn’t hope to use them all on a regular basis!  I have my favourites which suit my skin type. 

    I do also formulate specifically for myself, as I have very picky skin and do also give away some products.

    I seem to have accumulated quite a stock of miracare based body wash which will keep me going for a couple of years. 
  • heraklit

    Member
    April 13, 2015 at 9:48 am

    Yes, all the leftovers. We don’t buy any cosmetic - we use only the basics (soaps, shampoo, creams). And now I will start making and colognes also for us.

  • belassi

    Member
    April 13, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    I test new formulations on such a frequent basis that I have to throw out perfectly good items quite often. If someone comes to me with a particular problem I sometimes will formulate specifically for that person, but only if I believe I might be able to come up with an effective formula. My family and many relatives use our products.

  • braveheart

    Member
    April 20, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    :)

    Since I started testing formulations, which is some 5-6 years now, i have had no need to buy creams. Good or bad (non-microbially challenged), I use the personally. 
    In fact, I sometimes take several showers, just to test the effect of different fragrances in shower gels. :D
  • oldperry

    Member
    April 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    I tried and used all the formulas I worked on.  In fact, while I don’t work for them any more I still use Tresemme and VO5.  It was strange the first time I had to go and actually buy the product.  As a formulator you got left over samples from QA or any batch you were working on.

    I know there were a number of formulators who didn’t use the products they worked on.  It never made sense to me.
    An interesting tidbit…I believe in 2005 I had the most shampooed head in America.  I was working on reformulating the Tresemme Shampoo and Conditioner formulas plus evaluating every new raw material I could get my hands on.  My evaluation was to wash my hair and condition with every prototype.  That year I washed my hair about 1500 times. (We had a shower at work and I could got through 6 or 7 samples pretty quickly.
    I’m proof positive you can’t wash your hair too much.  Of course your scalp will hurt like hell.
  • bobzchemist

    Member
    April 21, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Yes, I do test and use each and every product I work on, at least once.

    No, I will not discuss how I tested products when I worked for Estee Lauder and Maybelline.
  • Iaskedbetter

    Member
    April 21, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    @Perry I’m sure you memorized the key components of your VO5 formulas. Why not just make some for yourself at your new job?

  • oldperry

    Member
    April 21, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    @Iaskedbetter - When you can buy VO5 for less than $1, making it for yourself doesn’t make any sense even when you know the exact formula.  

    I couldn’t possibly buy SLES, SLS, or Betaine for the prices that company was able to get.
  • bill_toge

    Member
    April 22, 2015 at 7:10 am
    yes, I’m happy to be a guinea pig for my own products, except where it’s not practical to do so (e.g. my hair is too short to style or comb, so I can’t meaningfully evaluate conditioners or styling products); it also helps that I have no known allergies 

    in contrast, my old boss wouldn’t even consider using anything until it had been run through all the tests and safety assessed, but by her own admission she was something of a hypochondriac
  • braveheart

    Member
    April 22, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    @Perry ….  1500 washes…. and your hair hasn’t turned grey yet? :D

    I can just imagine how sore that scalp would be. If only the hair strands could talk, they would have carried placards in protest and claimed violation of their living rights…. :D
    I hope you haven’t forgotten the “like” button.
  • CosChemFan

    Member
    April 22, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    I test everything myself and use only the hair care products I design and make. How else do you know how the consumer will experience the product? Plus it’s great stuff!

  • oldperry

    Member
    April 22, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    @braveheart - lol!  I’ve only got a few gray hairs and I’m 46.  It’s all about the genes.

    @CosChemFan - That’s the spirit!
  • MichelleReece

    Member
    April 23, 2015 at 7:38 am

    @Perry Did you get any dermatitis from washing your hair that often? I think mine would’ve.

  • chemist77

    Member
    April 23, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    @Perry Since the cat is out of the bag can we see this now

    Perry,
    46

    :)

  • oldperry

    Member
    April 23, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    @MichelleReece - I was lucky and didn’t get dermatitis.  Guess I have good skin genes.

  • RobertG

    Member
    December 22, 2015 at 4:38 am

    I use this stuff, basically to use it up, since I haven’t been successful in marketing it — http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/lather.html .  When I was experimenting on the formula, I took a lot of baths, as well as putting solutions in my ears & up my nose!

    However, for washing myself I usually use Ivory soap or even cheaper stuff such as Silk brand from Abu Dhabi, because I find solid soap more convenient, even for hair washing.  If I move to where the water is “harder”, I might switch.

    I have used samples colleagues wanted me to test or which were promotional, but I only use products of a general kind that I’d use anyway.  However, when I was trying to sell my foaming formula for use in foam dancing, I did try foam dancing at the Palladium night club with the material they were already using.

    I use all my homemade fireworks, because I wouldn’t let them out of my sight, although I did have other people light them in my presence when I was somewhat disabled from plantar wart surgery.

    I used cis-4-methylaminorex obtained by a friend (who was promoting it as U4Euh), and wound up getting a patent on its method of use as a sinus decongestant.  I also used gamma-butyrolactone that a friend was using to make Na GHB, and found that it’s actually better as a liquor substitute (in water tastes like bourbon, feels like booze w/o some of the latter’s adverse effects) in cyclic form than saponified.  I was also among the first people outside General Foods to try their aspartame-sweetened Kool Aid, which may have been the first commercial use of NutraSweet, when Tom Borelli brought some into our class & we made it up in a volumetric flask.

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